We Are Like Pickles

  • Workout Date - 10/15/2014
  • Q In Charge - Zoila
  • The PAX - Amelia, Grilled Cheese on a Donut, FNG Paul Bunyan's Axe (Dave C.), Zoila (YHC)
  • AO -

The VSF was planted in the frigid (60 degrees but windy) weather and 4 pax (1 FNG) discussed God’s law, righteousness, active faith, and infant baptism.

The Thang: Romans 10

10 Brothers,[a] my heart’s desire and prayer to God for them is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.[b]

The Message of Salvation to All

For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

14 How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard?[c] And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

18 But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for

“Their voice has gone out to all the earth,
    and their words to the ends of the world.”

19 But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says,

“I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation;
    with a foolish nation I will make you angry.”

20 Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,

“I have been found by those who did not seek me;
    I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.”

21 But of Israel he says, “All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.”

We specifically discussed verses 1-5 about how we can ourselves not have misdirected zeal but instead of enthusiasm with real knowledge.  We further discussed how we actively believe, by viewing our lives within the scope of God’s righteous plan, rather than within our own self-centered plan.  Infant baptism was brought up because YHC was baptized as an infant and underwent poor churching and doctrinal training for my formative years, so we each talked about being baptized as an infant and how that impacted our faith as we matured.  In some instances, we all had to look at the faith and doctrine that we were raised in and re-evaluate it once we came to real faith.

FNG Paul Bunyan’s Axe brought up an illustration between the Greek “bapto” and “baptiso”.  When pickling cucumbers using the Greek language, “bapto” is when you cleanse the cucumbers but “baptiso” is when the cucumbers (via the brine) are transformed into pickles.  Baptiso is a Greek root word for the act of Christian baptism, which helped Paul Bunyan’s Axe with the decision to lean towards believers baptism for his 2.0’s (vs. infant baptism).  [For the record, YHC is a Presbyterian and my kids were baptized as infants, but I love the illustration of what true heart change is all about.  It’s not about just being washed clean, it’s also about being transformed.]

Finally, we talked about sharing the Gospel of Grace with those around us who have not heard it.  Step one, pray.  Step two, love those around us sacrificially.  Rinse and repeat.


-Welcome to FNG Paul Bunyan’s Axe (Dave C.).  Paul Bunyan’s Axe works with Amelia and will possibly start posting out in Simpsonville.  PBA is from Wisconsin but went to the Univ of Minnesota.

-Next week Vanilla Ice will Q either Romans 11 or 12.

-YHC is looking into suitable indoor venues as Amelia was too cold today.

-F3 Connect is tomorrow, Anderson launch is Saturday.

-GCOD’s daughter turned 10 today, praise God.

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